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Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:14 pm

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Planet wrote:
Thank you, EKB:

I am assuming PROFESSIONALS still use Alien Bees as well though, right?

I understand that if your are working with a professional model, she might be able to pose faster than the recycle time of ABs, but most of the models I work with need a LOT of direction between poses.

Yes, pros are still using ABs in large numbers. But a good number are moving to Einstein. Don't have an exact number, but I suspect around 40% of magazine shots you see are AB shots. I would also guess that less than 5% of USA pros are using high end European flashes, and that most of them use rental studios.




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Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:02 pm

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Thanks for the explanation, Paul.

that seems to make sense. The people on forums who talk about the benefits of European strobes say that they like being able to rent either the strobes or modifiers in most major cities.

I am going to guess that part of that is because the European strobes spend more time in the shop being repaired, hence the increased need to be able to rent a similar device or modifier. ;)

But I guess if you actually want to OWN your strobes instead of renting them (or the modifiers for them), then the European strobes are at something of a disadvantage.




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Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:12 pm

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Technical Support wrote:
Planet wrote:
But I was out on a shoot outdoors and trying to shoot at f/2 and I couldn't get the power down low enough on my WL10,000s.


Not sure of the environment, and so you may already know this, but shooting outside with ambient light alone, you often cannot get to f/2 (at ISO 100 and at your x-sync speed). If this is the case, then a light with a broader power range will not help. You would have to use a neutral density filter (on lens) or wait until the light level gets lower.


Thank you, tech support;

Yes, I was outdoors but under a canopy of trees (there was enough foliage overhead that all the ambient light had a green color cast to it). So the ambient light was f/2 at 1/200th at ISO 100.

And since my hands are a bit shakey, I had the shutter at 1/200th (my max sync speed).

But you are right: when I was NOT under the canopy of trees, I was much closer to f/5.6 with a polarizer on my lens at ISO 100.




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Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:22 pm

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Planet, I expect it depends on just what kind of photography the professional is doing. I'd expect pros who need lights with a higher performance rating, or a high snobbery rating, would want to use something else.

The recycle times on my ABs have never been an issue with me, and I wouldn't think they'd ever be an issue unless the model is posing really fast. Checking the specs: B400 0.5 sec, B800 1 sec, B1600 2 sec, all at full power.

But what I'm more curious about is the proportion of Bees owned by people who rent them out, either someone like LensRentals, or places that provide lights when they rent out studios to photographers.




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Mon Sep 01, 2014 5:03 pm

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Not many AB rentals. When peeps rent lights they usually want Einsteins or Euro lights. I've heard a very big percentage of the Euro lights are sold to rental houses.

You would be surprised at some of our customers that literally buy thousands of Bees . . . Saudi Arabia uses them in traffic light cameras, many states use them in for drivers license photos, and several chains of volume child photo photographer franchises.

Also, many magazine publishers have AB studios.




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Tue Sep 02, 2014 12:29 am

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That is good to know that they are so widely used in such a breadth of industries.

Yes, I think most of the local studios that rent out time are equipped with Alien Bees.




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Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:31 am

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I guess this quote I just came across in a lighting book sums it up:

Quote:
"I use AlienBees lights. These are great lights for the price—and I receive no money or free lights for saying so."


Jeff Smith
Step-by-Step Lighting For Studio Portrait Photography
2013, Amherst Media
ISBN-13: 978-1-60895-622-7




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